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		<title>By: A &#8220;future&#8221; cure for online ad pricing volatility &#171; Brand.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>A &#8220;future&#8221; cure for online ad pricing volatility &#171; Brand.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] critical raw material input.  As I have written previously in a pair of articles in Ad Age and Ad Exchanger, I think this will change and indeed must change for online media to become a greater share of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Online Advertising Should Learn From TV&#8217;s Upfront Market &#171; Brand.net</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-5719</link>
		<dc:creator>What Online Advertising Should Learn From TV&#8217;s Upfront Market &#171; Brand.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it I have a byline that outlines, in a more popularly accessible way, the main ideas of my previous technical piece on on the importance of the futures market for Brand [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vivek Veeraraghavan</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-5026</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivek Veeraraghavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time. While we present that the space has been pioneered, let&#039;s not forget the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's about time. While we present that the space has been pioneered, let's not forget the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: andy atherton</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4971</link>
		<dc:creator>andy atherton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts and comments.

@JR
I think what you’re getting at here is the classic marketing funnel.  So yes, brands absolutely want and need to work the full funnel online.  Today they just have more tools for working the middle to the bottom vs. the top to the middle.

@Darren Herman
1.	 Agree that not everything for brands needs to be futures.  Brands can and will do some spot buying, but I believe the majority of spend will still be planned in advance.

2.	There could also be forward market in non-standard executions - there already is really - although I would remind everyone of my disclaimer in the first paragraph that non-standard, non-exchange traded forward contracts are not technically “futures” - one of the trackbacks clearly missed that.

3.	This is a great question (although given the strong ratings Moody’s gave many soon-to-be toxic assets this arguably isn’t a critical piece of infrastructure).  There will need to be automated assurance that inventory provided in fulfillment of a contract meets the agreed specifications, but I think that’s a bit different than what Moody’s claimed to provide.   I think this objective spec-checking service could be provided by the exchange itself or by a third party, but I think assessments of “value” will be hard to do from a third-party perspective as they vary based on the counterparty (the “subjective” discussion in the article).

@ Michael Andrew
I agree that large publishers are more likely to be early primary sellers, but (to your question about how smaller publishers can participate) I also think there’s a market for intermediaries who have the meta-forecasting and delivery management capabilities to sell futures, delivering an aggregation of inventory from smaller publishers (or of smaller blocks from large publishers).  Also want to make the point that both spot and futures markets are critical.  Definitely not making the argument that the spot market isn’t tremendously valuable, just that it’s an incomplete solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts and comments.</p>
<p>@JR<br />
I think what you’re getting at here is the classic marketing funnel.  So yes, brands absolutely want and need to work the full funnel online.  Today they just have more tools for working the middle to the bottom vs. the top to the middle.</p>
<p>@Darren Herman<br />
1.	 Agree that not everything for brands needs to be futures.  Brands can and will do some spot buying, but I believe the majority of spend will still be planned in advance.</p>
<p>2.	There could also be forward market in non-standard executions - there already is really - although I would remind everyone of my disclaimer in the first paragraph that non-standard, non-exchange traded forward contracts are not technically “futures” - one of the trackbacks clearly missed that.</p>
<p>3.	This is a great question (although given the strong ratings Moody’s gave many soon-to-be toxic assets this arguably isn’t a critical piece of infrastructure).  There will need to be automated assurance that inventory provided in fulfillment of a contract meets the agreed specifications, but I think that’s a bit different than what Moody’s claimed to provide.   I think this objective spec-checking service could be provided by the exchange itself or by a third party, but I think assessments of “value” will be hard to do from a third-party perspective as they vary based on the counterparty (the “subjective” discussion in the article).</p>
<p>@ Michael Andrew<br />
I agree that large publishers are more likely to be early primary sellers, but (to your question about how smaller publishers can participate) I also think there’s a market for intermediaries who have the meta-forecasting and delivery management capabilities to sell futures, delivering an aggregation of inventory from smaller publishers (or of smaller blocks from large publishers).  Also want to make the point that both spot and futures markets are critical.  Definitely not making the argument that the spot market isn’t tremendously valuable, just that it’s an incomplete solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A futures market seems to map well for the large publishers of content who have enough inventory and volume to provide forecasting and the economic incentive to lock in inventory acquisition months ahead of time. Certainly the publisher yield systems need to offer more automated ways of dealing with futures buying as a complement to the Exchange inventory.

As you pointed out the difficulty will be excluding the transient and client specific data which makes the RTB environment so valuable. Often this data is time sensitive and unique to the Brand&#039;s intelligence (think re-marketing).
 
As advertisers price this correctly it should increase the yield for publishers across the board. If we look to the Google example it is a completely live and dynamic market that has dramatically risen in CPM pricing over the years as advertisers learned the value of the inventory. If publishers see the same yield increase from the live environment it could hamper futures acquisition.

The other issue I&#039;m not sure how to deal with is the long tail. How can the brand buyers lock down inventory that is happening across the long tail of sites? Even if they can take care of the major publishers the aggregate reach and impression volume of the long tail might be as high as 80% of total volume. Is this something that would have to be guaranteed by the exchange itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A futures market seems to map well for the large publishers of content who have enough inventory and volume to provide forecasting and the economic incentive to lock in inventory acquisition months ahead of time. Certainly the publisher yield systems need to offer more automated ways of dealing with futures buying as a complement to the Exchange inventory.</p>
<p>As you pointed out the difficulty will be excluding the transient and client specific data which makes the RTB environment so valuable. Often this data is time sensitive and unique to the Brand's intelligence (think re-marketing).</p>
<p>As advertisers price this correctly it should increase the yield for publishers across the board. If we look to the Google example it is a completely live and dynamic market that has dramatically risen in CPM pricing over the years as advertisers learned the value of the inventory. If publishers see the same yield increase from the live environment it could hamper futures acquisition.</p>
<p>The other issue I'm not sure how to deal with is the long tail. How can the brand buyers lock down inventory that is happening across the long tail of sites? Even if they can take care of the major publishers the aggregate reach and impression volume of the long tail might be as high as 80% of total volume. Is this something that would have to be guaranteed by the exchange itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Not actually futures</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4944</link>
		<dc:creator>Not actually futures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Atherton&#8217;s recent post in AdExchanger about a futures market for advertising is interesting but flawed, primarily because of problems with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Darren Herman</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4940</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, great article.  Quite a bit has been written about whether financials analogies hold up to our marketplace but with what you&#039;ve written above, the &quot;futures&quot; market is within reach.

A few things:

1.  I do think you can have brand dollars within a spot market.  Not everything you need to do for brands needs to be a futures market.

2.  I see  a futures market around non-standardized creative units (i.e. takeovers, dominations, etc)

3.  In this ecosystem, who plays Moody&#039;s?

Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, great article.  Quite a bit has been written about whether financials analogies hold up to our marketplace but with what you've written above, the "futures" market is within reach.</p>
<p>A few things:</p>
<p>1.  I do think you can have brand dollars within a spot market.  Not everything you need to do for brands needs to be a futures market.</p>
<p>2.  I see  a futures market around non-standardized creative units (i.e. takeovers, dominations, etc)</p>
<p>3.  In this ecosystem, who plays Moody's?</p>
<p>Darren</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4939</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece, showing where the &quot;Madison Avenue meets Wall Street&quot; depiction starts to fall apart. 

A futures market driven primarily by brand advertisers would certainly be interesting; one can imagine a brand buying impressions on a futures basis, then upon delivery of the ads, launching an immediate follow-up campaign via the spot markets. The follow-up campaign would be optimized, by focusing on the audiences in which the futures campaign saw greatest traction (as measured by engagement with the ad, a visit to the brand&#039;s site after viewing the ad, etc). Assuming they could determine the most interested audiences, could that be attractive for a brand advertiser?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece, showing where the "Madison Avenue meets Wall Street" depiction starts to fall apart. </p>
<p>A futures market driven primarily by brand advertisers would certainly be interesting; one can imagine a brand buying impressions on a futures basis, then upon delivery of the ads, launching an immediate follow-up campaign via the spot markets. The follow-up campaign would be optimized, by focusing on the audiences in which the futures campaign saw greatest traction (as measured by engagement with the ad, a visit to the brand's site after viewing the ad, etc). Assuming they could determine the most interested audiences, could that be attractive for a brand advertiser?</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Time For The Futures Exchange &#171; Brand.net</title>
		<link>http://www.adexchanger.com/networking/futures-exchange/#comment-4938</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Time For The Futures Exchange &#171; Brand.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quick post to direct readers to today&#8217;s guest article for AdExchanger.  It will be pushed to the broader AdExchanger audience tomorrow in John&#8217;s roundup, but [...]</description>
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